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Changing stealing rules

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Hi, 

I enjoy playing as a commoner and doing trade. For example buying bread off serfs and selling it to soldiers near a battle. However, with the current ruleset, this way of playing is being made impossible.

Because:
- It isnt a bannable offense to steal items from a cart if the player controlling the cart is not halted.
- Because of this; tincans and nakeds alike can just take the items out of the cart without interacting with you whatsoever.
- There is already a class made specifically for thiefs and thugs: The Outlaws.

I wish for the rules to be altered in order to make that action illegal, and refundable/bannable. 
Without the alteration it is impossible to play as a trader because nakeds can just steal and eat your profit in 0.5 seconds.

My Question is:
Can the rules be changed from stealing only being illegal when halting to:

Stealing by faction members or commoners is illegal (also out of a cart or when not halted).?

I think this change of rules can give the server a more active economy and less 1 hour war then dead-effect.

I look forward to people giving their opinion about this :D.

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I know this isn't a roleplay server but there used to be activity on this server in different kind of ways. I enjoy fighting not only as a tincan on a siege but also in skirmishes and big robberies, and I am of the opinion that it doesn't have to be one or the other. Both playstyles can be on this server; there are enough slots for it. Right now everyone has full bank because of the gold mines (Which honestly I think are bad for the game), which makes people wear tincan only. In the old days there were soldiers that were rich and those who were poor so there were diverse fights. Reliving the economy by protecting the weak just a little bit more and removing gold mines will cause more outlaws to play, which will in turn cause more factions to play.

I know this isn't an RP server and I understand that, but I also think there could be a middle ground between sec RP and sec brainless fighting with full bank, we got native for that right?
I also know that this rule might be difficult to enforce, but logs can show items being taken out of containers without interactions with the owner. And if you still want to steal, there is always outlaw right (which I used to play a lot back in the day).

Just throwing it out there, I know there are many players like me that like to play in this way.

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Also I don't understand why there is a difference right now between halting and then stealing from a cart (which right now is considered illegal) and not halting but just straight up taking items out of the cart. These rules practically force the rider of the cart to cart glitch their way to aid trying to hit off the flock of looters like a horse whips off flies off its ass.

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3 hours ago, Hagaron said:

because

bait

you cripple

and i like triggering them 

i really couldnt care if he insults someone lol

Uhhu

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12 hours ago, Dekkers said:

Why are you evidently so obsessed with the admin team tho? You take literally every chance you get to assault them. It's like attacking a cripple with no arms (like attacking me basicly) so why bother?

Because the last thing this server needs is staffmembers driving players out of this community because they want to proof how edgy and cool they are by insulting them...

1 hour ago, Zareno said:

Also I don't understand why there is a difference right now between halting and then stealing from a cart (which right now is considered illegal) and not halting but just straight up taking items out of the cart. These rules practically force the rider of the cart to cart glitch their way to aid trying to hit off the flock of looters like a horse whips off flies off its ass.

Because people steal 1-3 items out of your cart now before they piss off and its also possible to deny them access to the cart (stand on top of it, put it in an inacessible area) or run away. If they were able to halt you it would be item robbery (which only outlaws are allowed to do) and they could bring a second cart and take every single item out of yours. 

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1 hour ago, Johann said:

Because the last thing this server needs is staffmembers driving players out of this community because they want to proof how edgy and cool they are by insulting them...

 

no

player insults on the forums > warning points from the staff 

staff insulting on the forums > 🚫 giving out warning points to players insulting

"we simply enforce the forum rules" scuse me but wat

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3 hours ago, Dekkers said:

Uhhu

the sound you make before i push you down the stairs and you will end up in a wheelchair

owno

 

 

O

 

 

wait

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18 minutes ago, Hagaron said:

the sound you make before i push you down the stairs and you will end up in a wheelchair

owno

 

 

O

 

 

wait

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